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The shevette show Dadburn zipper!

Welcome to the shevette show!
We have just had a backstage tour of me in my dressing room with and interview by Sir Elo. He has lead me in handcuffs back to the stage...

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Sirs Biff, Elo, and Dan
LEGEND:
Sir Biff - Sir Elo - Sir Dan - me.
scene opens a couch has replaced the desk and chair we are sitting around Sir Biff on the arm of one couch, me on another. Sir Dan in one couch, Sir Elo in the other couch. ---------- And welcome back! Now that we all know one another Detective Biff wants to get our thoughts on segregation against bondage and, in fact segregation on the net as it applies to all of our different kinks...

That's right shevette. I don't think enough has been said about it.

Aw, if they don't like what they see then let them turn the page!

Of course. We can't control what people like, but it would be nice if they would look long enough to make up their own mind...

Yeah, and not try to make up mine for me. I hate it when someone tries to tell me what I should like and it's even worse when they try to force their beliefs down my gullet!

We have all felt the pangs of being force-fed something that we don't agree with.

...and that's not the worst of it. I feel like people are trying to make me feel guilty about what I think I like. It's not right!

They don't even have to get onto one of us. They can just convince someone who is important to you.

All someone has to do for me is call it a fetish - i don't even like that word!

fet-ish n 2: something that is made an object of unreasoning devotion or concern.

That's the mainstream definition. May I suggest another:

something that is made an object of devotion which fulfills a deep-seated need or desire

i would still rather be able to say that i have a kink...

I have to try and be fair, though there are certain fetishes or kinks that I will not even accept written stories, much less write them.

We all have a tendency to reject what we don't like, but is it fair?

Well sure, I have a right to reject what I don't like personally.

True, but can we afford to reject anyone? To reject is to be rejected. If we want freedom then we have to extend it to others...

True, but what we are talking about is when what you or I want to do is prohibited. Last night I went to a fetish party where I showed some people some of my art, and talked about our feelings. The feeling of not having to censor everything I say was one of the most liberating feelings in the world, and the cultural sharing (i.e. we all knew where the others were "coming from") was so relaxing. Give me a country where that feeling prevails, I'll give up beautiful Oz and move there tomorrow!

And I'll be right behind ya.

Getting online has been a extremely liberating experience for me. It's given me a chance to express myself in a manner I've never before had the opportunity or confidence to do.

But what happens if that is taken away?

Thankyaverymuch. That's my point!

Some years ago, I worked in an adult bookstore for about 2 years. Would have stayed there if the owner hadn't become an asshole. Anyway, what I'm getting at is, I've seen many different types of people, with many different types of sexual turn-ons. And I think the 2nd most hidden fetish in the world is bondage. The first is homosexuality, but not by as much as it used to be. I've seen people come into the store, just as free as you please, bouncing around buying whatever, but most of the people looking for bondage materials, came in like they were buying drugs or something. You know, looking around to make sure no-one saw them buy whatever it was that they purchased."
[Deep breath]
This is how I feel about bondage, and judging from the way the rest of you have responded so far, you seem to feel the same way. To me, having a bondage fetish, is just like watching every NASCAR program you can find, or watching all the soap operas. IT'S WHAT YOU ENJOY DOING! Why can't bondage lovers be just as open as the other fetishes around, and why is it that you can flash someone's picture in Playboy or Penthouse, and it's called by most people "erotic art". Put the same pic in Bondage Life or Love Bondage Fantasies and add the appropriate restraints, AND IT'S SUDDENLY TRASH, TABOO. THE BIG NO-NO! You can buy Playboy and Penthouse at the local convenience store (at least around my neck of the woods you can,) but to buy bondage mags and other paraphernalia, you either have to (1) Order them over the 'Net, which some people can't do because they don't have a credit card....(2) Mail order.....or (3) Go to an adult bookstore, which is also a difficult thing for some because either there are none anywhere close, or if there are, they're (a) picketed by some local yahoo spouting Bible verses that are twisted the way THEY want them, or (b) some crapola hole in the wall that you would not send your worst enemy to.
Elo I really liked your rant, with one caveat ...

HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A FETISH.

Okay, Shev, you heard the man. Let's rephrase that to sexual turn on. It's your sexual side. And when you think of it, for folks like us, maybe bondage cannot be defined as a fetish. Speaking for myself, it's as deeply ingrained in my sexual psyche as homosexuality is in a lesbian or gay man's.

I know it's in mine too. I remember that when I was in school(elementary school) I used to play with a couple of girls and we'd play during recess. They'd be captured and I'd save 'em. They were always "tied up". I think they enjoyed it as much as I did. Wish I could find 'em now......

And bondage being so much a part of us, repression or selfrepression of it is a first class ticket to psychological maladjustment; ironic when that's what's thrown in our face!

Untold numbers of gay folks have opted out of their life when faced with the choice of continuing to live a lie, or coming out and facing a hostile or even deadly world.

It'd be nice to parallel bondage and say... homosexuality, which is an "in" thing at the moment. Can you get AIDS from a crotchrope???

I hate to mount my high horse again, but WHOA!

Being gay wasn't "in" for Matthew Shepard, or for anyone who's been "gaybashed."

Not just in Wyoming. Here in the supposedly trendy SF Bay area, this shit goes on all too often.

Look, folks, I'm not trying to be Jesus on a stick here. It's just that I've seen up close and personal what prejudice born of ignorance and fear can do. My daddy was a member of the White Citizens Council, a sort of coat and tie Klan.

Denying or hiding our nature is just like staying "in the closet," has dire consequences for our lives. The bolder members of the gay community are "out and proud." Can we follow their lead? Or question why art depicting gratuitous violence, maiming and killing like the Terminator wins Academy Awards but I can't draw cartoons about one single damn pair of handcuffs without being called a pervert or a freak. That hurts!

Amen! Testify, brother!

There's the damage we get from those outside the community, but what about the damage from within? i have always thought that i was pretty open to most things - but i found that i wasn't and i'm still not totally liberated.

A liberated slave?

You know what i mean...

Go on shevette.

Thanks. Rob and i almost didn't get together. i had the misconception that guys who wanted to be subs were sissified. Was i ever wrong!

You are saying that Rob's okay because he's Rob, because he has qualities you value. You don't find effeminacy attractive. Fair enough.

But he's no more worthy of respect than the most "sissified" male sub, whatever THAT means.

I'm not attracted to "butch" women (I AM attracted to strong, confident women -- but there's a distinction), but I don't hold them in contempt.

True. i also believed that since i'm a woman and i like the role of slave that all women wanted to be slaves too, willing slaves. i guess i was wrong there too.

I guess it's easy to believe women were meant to be slaves (Lord knows my daddy reckoned it to be true). They've had plenty of millennia as little but.

And if you're willingly giving yourself to someone as their slave, knowing (or at least hoping) that that act of trust will never be betrayed, then go head on.

But outside of that relationship, women (and everyone else on the short end of the stick) need to be Billy Joe Badasses when it comes to asserting and defending their rights as human beings.

I'm not talking about selfishness. I'm talking about standing up for yourself and the other folks in the same boat with you.

Oh, don't think that i don't stand up for myself. A lot of people think that by calling myself a slave that i am willing to take whatever guff people care to dish out to me. Wrongo! Some people can do that to me, not all. If i respect someone they have my trust. If someone i trust orders me to crawl around on the floor and eat out of a dog bowl i'll do it!

I was thinking more along the lines of a cat-food dish...

Meow! Giggle. If it's for my own good then fine, even if it's a shared good for both of us, but if it's just for your own gratification then i hope you have an idea of some of the places one of those bowls can be shoved!

Down girl!

i wasn't getting upset, just letting everyone know that there are lines i cross and lines that i don't cross.

i'm a believer!

Giggle

So we educate people!

To educate someone you have to be talking to someone who wants to learn...

And why does the responsibility fall on us?

Ok, on to plan B; we rip out their spleen?

Something to keep in mind, i suppose. All this hiding isn't for me. I am what I am. Hi, I like bondage and my real name is...

[D and s rush to cover E's mouth. B looks like he could pass out. E looks surprised] I admire your integrity Elo, but this is a step you need to think about.
Yeah, when you take it you are not the only one affected. It catches over to your wife and your kids too!

I didn't think about that, thanks for stopping me!

They are right Elo. Good idea, bad timing. The world isn't ready for all of us to beat our way out of the closet just yet!

It isn't right to keep this hidden though.

Did someone say life is fair?

Shev, didn't you say something about 90% of American dream about this stuff?

i believe 90% have bondage fantasies.

So why DO we keep it hidden?

You tell me. We sure shouldn't have to.

It's not like we are ashamed of what we do.

No, i can see where we do need to keep it down, for the sake of the kids - just like everything else that goes on behind bedroom doors. There is more of an acceptance though, i think, compared to 50, 25, 5, even 2 years ago. Compared to when i first opened my other site a lot has changed. Back then all my mail was from guys and half of them wanted to order me around. Now, almost half my mail is from women and if i get a request to do something bondage related it expressed as a request, not an order.

It's changing, but how about in my lifetime!

We aren't bad people.

No, but we are associated with the not-so-savory elements.

Sometimes bondage is as simple and as innocent as a tickling session or a kiss where my hands are held behind me...

But bondage grows - that's what they say.

Hey, it sure does, and that's one of the best things about it - but you aren't going to even see me let someone tie me down and be mean to me.

Well maybe that's what the problem is...

What?

Where people go too far.

You mean like leaving bruises?

Worse than that! i mean, dollface, like torture and hitting, and making your partner go too far.

i don't even call that kind of stuff bondage!

Yeah, you don't and neither does anyone here. I'm yakkin' about some poluka who doesn't know what the real thrill is and thinking he's going to do what ever pops into his mind with a woman figuring he can be sorry about it later on, or blame it on her because she's such a wimp or a tramp or something.

That's it. We need to bypass all those hot-to-trot websites and tell people what bondage is really all about. Dan, you said that one of the biggest thrills for you was seeing how that girl really looked at you when you tied her up, right?

Sure, she really saw me. That was something else to feel. How about you? You couldn't truly believe that shevette was really a slave - until she got you to handcuff her.

I know. It's mind boggling to think that the one thing I've dreamt about doing and seeing, tying up a woman, is something most women like to do, get all tied up!

Of course we do! Do you guys think you are the only ones with wild fantasies?

Yeah shevette, but didn't you tell me once that you were afraid to ask a guy to tie you up for the first time? It works both ways.

i know that - now!

So what we have is some people out there doing bondage the wrong way and giving all of us a bad name!

What's your definition of 'the right way'?

With love! Bondage is a sharing kind of thing!

Exactimundo little darlin'! This goes back to what you and Elo were talking about back in your dressing room. You couldn't put a handle on what kind of slave you think you are - there is no one right way to say it, see?

i'm a willing slave...

Not exactly. You aren't willing to be whipped into some mindless servant, are you?

Heck no!

What we need is a name for it. Instead of just bondage we could call it something else, something with definition!

i like to call it Love Bondage...

There you go using that word again! Love slave, love bondage, how about love pizza?

How about "Bondage for the Masses"? I know what we need to do. We'll start a Web-Ring and call it that!

Yeek! All we need is another Web-Ring!

Why not call it the "BiffDanEloShev Ring"? For all the good it'll do.

No. It will be for all the normal people, not the ones who want to just get off on some horey stories of beautiful women getting kidnapped and all tied up.

Some of my fondest fantasies have been about beautiful women getting kidnapped and all tied up!

Mine too! err... Me getting kidnapped and all tied up, i mean...

I think what he means is that neither of you would really want to do something like that, right?
[Looks around slowly]
Well no, not really...

Naw... Not for real.

I've had those fantasies too, but it's not something I'd be likely to do. That's why we need this new Web-Ring. For people who get turned on by the idea of bondage, but wouldn't really hurt anyone - or wouldn't want someone to hurt them...[looking at me]

Thank you.

So this would be for the masses, Get it?

I like it!

Me too, great idea!

Could you call it "Bondage Play"?

Even better! Ok Bondage Play it is then! We'll all manage it. It will be about the fun side of bondage, things that no one need ever be ashamed of.

i like it!

I don't know if it'll do any good, but I'm willing to try. Anything is better than complaining. How about you Dan, what do you think?

The idea is good, but I wish we could stop calling what we do bondage. We need a name that's brand new for what we do. Something that has no meaning right now, but will as people fall behind the idea. Yaggghh! Then someone will pervert the name! I say we all tie up shevette again, how's that?

again?
I'm in favor!

Me too!

This time i get to gag her!

Ok, ok you can all tie me up again! Gee whiz! -but on the next show when we all get together and talk about the progress we get, ok?

I've got the rope!

Next Show...

Ok, but remember that I've got the warm hands!

Watch it fella - i'm engaged! By the way, are you going to take these handcuffs off of me now?

Next Show... Naw, you’ve been a good sport long enough, thanks!

[Sir Dan, i'm giving your kangaroo a home on the show, ok? Please... (beg beg beg)]

OK THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR THE FOURTH PAGE - LOTTSA STUFF MISSING BECAUSE I HAVE SO MANY EMAILS FROM ALL OF YOU. PLEASE EDIT YOUR LINES TO SUIT YOU AND SEND BACK TO ME SO I CAN DO THE FINAL EDIT TOMORROW AND HOPEFULLY GET THE PICS DONE. THE ONES WITH SIR DAN I WILL SEND TO HIM AND HE CAN ADD HIMSELF IN AND THAT SHOULD BE A WRAP. I FEEL BAD THAT THIS FINAL PAGE ISN'T AS HARD HITTING AS I'D LIKE FOR IT TO BE, LIKE I SAID, I CAN'T FIND THE LETTERS I NEED WITH THE QUOTES I WANTED. PLEASE EDIT YOUR OWN CHARACTER - IF I GET TWO OF YOU SAYING THE SAME THING I WILL FIX THE DIALOGUE SOMEHOW, OK? YOU'VE ALL DONE A GREAT JOB, I MEAN THAT. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ALL BECOME FRIENDS, I REALLY DO! YOU ARE A GREAT BUNCH OF GUYS! OH, AND THE KANGAROO IS MINE! HE'LL BE PINKS AND PURPLES I THINK...

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